What we watched this June/July/Aug 2026

Oscar and Carl take a moment to chat about some of the movies they've been watching the past few months. Also guys, it's the same acronym of the normal podcast! Still can't get over that. 

Movies we talk about:

Toy Story 5 (2026)

Enemy (2013) + Under the Silver Lake (2018)

Lord of the Rings Trilogy (2001-2003) 

The Odyssey (2026) 

Spider-Man: Brand New Day (2026)

WALL-E (2008)

Titanic (1997)

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:03

My name is Oscar. My name is Carl. And this is Who Would Watch This?

SPEAKER_01 0:06

Welcome to Who Would Watch this podcast? We'd watch a film, chapter the film, and then try and figure out who'd watch it. Tire Screech. Ain't that today, is it Carl? What are you- What are we doing? What are we doing?

SPEAKER_00 0:15

We're doing it's a it's a what we watched ginger line.

SPEAKER_01 0:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:19

Ginger line. It's ginger line.

SPEAKER_01 0:21

Speak of org. Switch of org. Yeah, we do these because Ginger Light Org. We go, you know. We'll do them quarterly. We do a quarterly.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

Every financial quarter.

SPEAKER_01 0:29

Exactly. It's Q3 and a great Q3, huh? How's that? No, we we filmed some of the video stuff and we're like, we're nailing it. And sometimes we need a week, and I think we missed it.

SPEAKER_00 0:36

You know what we're doing? Sometimes we get a little hungover and look like dog shit. Yeah. And I can't be on camera.

SPEAKER_01 0:41

Yeah, bro. Look, I said I'm if I'm not a bit of face, but this face should not be on camera for now. Absolutely. I look like whoreshit.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

I also straight up have not, I usually would be getting like a haircut every two months. I it's been like four months. I can't I have no money. You look like directly. I do look like my hair's so long. It's shagged up. It's so long. It's super shaggy. Yeah. So yeah, it's not a good look. Even people at work have been telling me I've looked like crap this this month.

SPEAKER_01 1:06

I got, you know, I heckled you said to get a haircut hippie Alan Nixon, you know, but it had to It rocks me. Yeah, exactly. It absolutely rocks me. I'm glad it did. Carl, we've watched some movies, uh, not for the podcast. We're just watching it casually outside. Sometimes, you know, we check out films that aren't bad. Who knew? Who knew? Who knew? Uh and we just thought we'd go through them. We've watched a few together, we've watched a few separately, and we just thought we'd give you a little review, a little chat about them. Is that crazy? Is that nuts?

SPEAKER_00 1:33

I think it's nice. I think it's good. I think people should settle in. Uh and I think we'll let you I think we worked out the best way to handle this is to not spoil anything. Yeah, right? Yeah. So we're we'll let you know if we're gonna spoil a film. Yeah. But as far as we're concerned, yeah, no spoilers.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

I'm looking down here. I'm gonna spoil the first there's there's some I'll spoil because they've been out for a while and we've all seen them. But but yes, generally, generally if there's a new one, we'll try and avoid it.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

You've gotta be you've gotta be careful now. I was telling you that there is uh there is an age demo that's rediscovering the sixth sense, and they didn't know the twist. Yeah. And one of our close friends was one of them. Do you know this?

SPEAKER_01 2:11

No, I didn't know this. Uh which is so funny because it's such it was such a a meme. I feel like maybe as I was watching it, people were like, there's a twist happening. Yeah. But I was young, I was like 10 when I watched it.

SPEAKER_00 2:22

What what is uh who was uh who it was Sarah? Oh no. Didn't know the twist, thought it was like the best movie she's ever seen. Fuck yeah, I love that. And so she was just raving about it. Because I think on top of it, she didn't realise that's also a just a good film. It's great. Really good drama, suspense, supernatural.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

Horror twist is like, of course, makes it, but then you're gonna go-cream on top. Yeah. It's cream on top of a good film. What a what a slap in the face when they do the sit-down scene at the dinner. We're just spoiling the We just promised we wouldn't spoil the f guys. He's not dead. It's a separate state. Sorry, all the new listeners. Sorry. Carl, let's jump into the first one, huh?

SPEAKER_00 2:59

Um, ventured out to the movies. Uh, you got to go to the premiere for this. Toy Story 5.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

Toy Story Five. The the fifth in the Toy Story uh canon.

SPEAKER_00 3:10

Now, I'm gonna throw a little bit of a a double controversy out here. Not even a double controversy.

SPEAKER_01 3:16

I'm on Tim Allen's side, he's got good politics. Go on, what were you saying?

SPEAKER_00 3:20

Uh straight up, in in like comparable when you put like all franchises next to each other. Probably one of the best fifth films I've seen in a franchise.

SPEAKER_01 3:30

Look, yeah, I'm trying to think of a fifth film in any franchise that's redoing I not counting like James Bond or like one of those sort of ones. Like they're good, you know? So to the point they go, look, it's the fifth one, and we're still kind of doing okay. I'm happy with that.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

And so I think baseline's there, that's fine. I think if you know what a Toy Story is and you like Toy Story and you go in, I think you'll be fine with that. Did not like this film.

SPEAKER_01 3:57

No, I was similar. And and again, it's definitely a spiteful 30 year old going, These aren't made for me anymore. But but but but uh unfortunately they kind of are a little bit simple.

SPEAKER_00 4:08

Well, I would also say I I'm not one of the haters on Toy Story 4. I like Toy Story 4. I thought Toy Story 4 in comparison to 5 comes back with a strong narrative and idea as to what it actually wants to tell with those characters. This is, I thought everybody's arc had been done before. Yeah. I thought I'm like At this point, I thought they were greedy. I thought they were great.

SPEAKER_01 4:31

You're like, I want a third kid to play with me. At this point, you're eternal beings. I'm sorry, at some point you're gonna have to let it go.

SPEAKER_00 4:37

You absolutely um do something about that though. Yeah. I I compliment wise, it's the most I've ever liked Bonnie. I don't think I've ever really connected to Bonnie in Toy Story 3.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

I couldn't believe so the creator was like, this is the Bonnie trilogy. I didn't so they better make a 6-1, and she's the through line of of these these last two, essentially.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

And I think as well, good for you wanting to touch on I guess iPad kids and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 5:02

But you can't take of just revolting. It's totally toothless. Or just like sometimes I guess it's good, but other times no.

SPEAKER_00 5:11

Well, they don't want to do any discussion of blaming the parents. Yeah. They don't want to get the parents offside because they're the ones paying to take the kids to the movie. Uh but I I've got nieces, they love their toys and they love to watch stuff. They like both, they use it all. Yeah. So there's a bit of a narrow, like I'm sure there are obviously a lot of kids that just look at an iPad. Yeah. But the way that I've encountered the kids in my family still like love to build things, yeah. Love to have an imagination. Like my niece writ wrote on the wall because she's got such an imagination. Look, look wow, what an artiste.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

I know, wrote my partner's name. Yeah, gotcha. Probably got a crush on him. Isn't that cute? That's not well, it's you know, it's incest by you know marriage. But yeah, no, you're right. I feel like it's it's sort of I don't know, it's sort of blaming the. I will say uh compliments. One, it always looks great. Um I what's kind of gave me through was the Conan. I'm I'm very much happy.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

Look, Conan's good in it. I I thought as well, I didn't think it was as good looking as four. I thought four had way more dynamic lighting.

SPEAKER_01 6:10

I remember them like showing off, they're like, what was Toy Story? This beautiful stream of light and the dust coming through. Remember that was like a whole thing? This one, this one's I can't really think of a scene that looked I was like, wow, that's yeah, amazing. How do you guys do that?

SPEAKER_00 6:24

Feel like a big story to me. And I thought Toy Story 2, 3, and 4 are way bigger adventures. Yeah. But they just sort of go to a girl's house and hang out there. Uh I also think they have run these toys into the ground. Yeah, they probably needed to have swapped.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

I thought I thought Woody didn't need to come back. Woody didn't need to come back. I feel like you've got to kill some of this cast. When I saw the guys from the fourth, when Forky was there, I was like, that's fine, but you know, kill some of the other ones.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

Well, the other thing too is I thought this was one of the least funny Pixar films. I'd just seen Hoppers. I thought Hoppers was awesome.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

Yeah, other than Conan, which I'm I'm very much enjoying, there really is no I think Woody doesn't really get a joke. I don't think Buzz really gets a joke. Everyone's just sort of a bit, it's just very odd, you know.

SPEAKER_00 7:08

It just felt very dull. I just thought it was a quite a dull, I thought it was one of the weaker ones in the franchise. Yeah. And that's where that's where I like it. I also didn't love the design for Bonnie's imagination. Thought Oh, the sort of uh uh stencil jumping. The watercolour sort of thing. Because I think Andy's imagination is like that big bridge in the third one, it's like blowing up, it's all done like a big blockbuster, and it makes it feel really expansive. This this illustration style that they've given it like is actually creeping in, so it's almost making the world she has really small. Yeah. Um and I just didn't know.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

I get it's like a kid's imagination, but for a child, you're not thinking POV, you're not thinking that's what I'm seeing, you know. Yeah. A parent seeing that sort of like they just colour it in the garbage. Yeah, no, I was I wasn't in love with this, and I forgot about it pretty much pretty much after I'd watched it.

SPEAKER_00 7:58

I straight up forgot about it too. Yeah, it took me a while to remember to log it.

SPEAKER_01 8:02

Um, and that's look, it's all fine, it's all great, but you know, you've got such a legacy with these Toy Story films.

SPEAKER_00 8:08

It made me go, I I went home and pretty much watched Toy Story 3, which uh un unbelievable. Unbelievably good.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

I I will say that I feel like the villain in this is really lacking in just uh giving them the i it's the iPad. That's the uh the I don't even think even think they're I think it's just a different point of view, which I almost hate more. Like I'd rather the iPad is horribly evil, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:32

I think just take a idea, yeah. I don't think it takes a strong enough stance. I think they've got the beginnings of an idea that's been rushed into production. Um I did like uh how they animated Bonnie's anxiety. I thought that was good. Like the way she sort of like curls herself up or she doesn't want to look people in the eye. Like I thought, oh, they've actually definitely they've really well animated a kid that's feeling uncomfortable in social situations.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

Which is just evil because you just know they got a bunch of children just like have a have a panic attack and just we're gonna mocap. Absolutely mocap.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

I also sleepovers stressed me the fuck out as a kid. So when Bonnie wasn't having a good time, I was like, get out of there. I don't want your feelings.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

What happened to you? I was with a bunk. It ruined me. I got greedy, and you know what? And then you know, people like you who had to claw the way back up, you know, finally took me off my bunk, my top button.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

Yeah, I'm yet to peak, and yet you peaked at 10. How does that feel?

SPEAKER_01 9:25

Uh it was a rush like no of it, like a heroin high. Uh, you gotta try it. Um but yeah, that was Toy Story 5. Could you believe it? What are you giving Toy Story 5? I give it a three out of five.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

I've given it a two and a half.

SPEAKER_01 9:36

Yeah, wow. That's pretty brutal.

SPEAKER_00 9:38

I was definitely sitting at a three, and then I I realized how much I didn't like it.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

Yeah, no, fair enough.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

Well, I mean, it's it's not that bad a thing.

SPEAKER_01 9:46

That uh it can't the base level's like it's pretty good. Yeah. I just think I'll never watch it again.

SPEAKER_00 9:50

No, I'll never watch it again. But to me, if you look at these movies, I think the first one introduces Buzz, that's a big thing. The second one introduces uh I g I guess Jesse and Jesse and Woody's backstory. Yeah, and so I'm like, that feels big. You've got a monumental character that's sticking around and you're fully fleshing out someone, and then you've got the third one, which is they leave Andy, which feels like a big moment. And then the fourth one, they split apart. And that to me is also like a consequential thing in like the world of Toy Story. Yeah. That in this one, I don't think there's any forward momentum for anybody.

SPEAKER_01 10:25

No, what is even I and and again, it really just feels like I'm just like, I'm so sorry, guys. Like you've been played with with two kids now. Like I'm I'm sick of you guys being like, we need to play. Like it's you guys need this can't be your motivation to be played with. It feels weird.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

They should have stayed at the preschool then, because the whole idea is like toys can live there for their entire life and they're not latched to a single kid. Yeah. You know? Why have you why have you bothered? It's up. It's up.

SPEAKER_01 10:55

Oscar, what have you watched this ginger leg hawk? Carl, I watched Enemy. Dennis Fanu. Dennis V. If you can't say it, just butcher it. Dennis V. Uh, he's been he's been making those Dune film films, which I have not checked out yet. How can sing second, didn't get taken to the IMAX, and now it's I was like, I won't watch it on TV. I'm hoping for the third one they do all the back ones. But I watched Enemy, which is one of his uh earlier ones with Jake Jill and Hall. Jake G. Jakey G. I was loving it, atmosphere-wise. Just so you guys know, uh, it's Jake Jill and Hall. Essentially, uh his character finds out there's another person that looks exactly like him. And then they're both sort of playing a little can of mouse to figure out what the hell's going on, while both of their partners are also thinking there's another Jake Jill and Hall.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

Um it's also super low budget. It's like a three million dollar movie or something, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 11:49

I it looks so it's so atmospheric. And that's the thing I was loving. It's a vibe. It's such a vibe. And I feel like if you're not in that headspace, you're not gonna you're gonna be like, this is taking its fucking time. Yeah. I was very much enjoying that, and it's sort of got like uh a sort of I I don't I'm trying to think of a better way to explain it, but it's sort of like a a Donnie Darko-esque sort of narrative put on top of it, if that makes sense. Like it's a bit abstract and sort of leaving a bit of uh the ending to the interpretation. Um had you had the ending spoil for you? Because it's quite a famous ending. I I vaguely had, yeah, okay, and I was like, I think I know this. Yeah. Uh, but I was sort of it didn't really it didn't really connect in my head. And then I sort of went. Oh, it's this film. Yeah, this one. Exactly, exactly. Um and that was great. I I I think I was very much enjoying it, and then I felt like a bit, I was like, I'm not gonna look up anything. I'll do seven days of not looking up anything. I sat with it and I very much enjoyed that. Once I researched and looked up the stuff, I'm like, okay, that's a nice way of doing it. But I think just the atmosphere and vibe and what it's sort of saying, I was very much enjoying that. Yeah. Uh so big recommend on that one. And yeah. Great stuff.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

I haven't seen that in years. My main memory I have of it is of its ending. And uh I think I thought Jake Jillanhall was like awesome in it.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

He's so good.

SPEAKER_00 13:10

Like just so good in it.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

Real subtle, he's playing like one kind of jackass and one kind of uh not meek, but kind of a solid guy. And again, if you sort of the ending sort of explains why that is he's playing it in those two ways. Um but just really subtle. I feel like he's he's playing very similar guys, and they're they're very close, but they're just a little sort of different, and you feel and you immediately know which one's on screen. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

He's really good in it. He is really good. It's a shame he hasn't worked more with Denise since because have you seen Prisoners?

SPEAKER_01 13:44

I have seen Prisoners, great. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:46

Because I think those are like two of his strongest performances are with Denis. Yeah, and so I don't know why he's not doing more with that director. Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

I feel like, and he's a big A-lister, like he's not like he's not like Denise's gone, I'm I've uh outgrown you. Yeah, is he also in Sicario? Why am I thinking he's in Sicario? That's Emily Blunt. I always get the confused constantly during uh you know Oppenheimer. I was thinking this is a Jill and Hall affair, but it was. It's a lot of Gill and Hall. It's a lot of Jill and there's a lot of Gill and Hall in Oppenheimer. Um, but no, real fun stuff. Uh I I I it's funny those films that you have to like sort of look up the ending to sort of get. I felt a bit well, I was like, no, I'll be good. I won't look up anything. Um I guess two different is two different feelings. You know, you get the like emotional feel of the film, and then you get almost like the sort of what explain this, and it's like okay, two different things, but it was enjoyable to sort of sit with it for a moment.

SPEAKER_00 14:39

It is fun when the I feel like there was more happening back in the early 2010s of we're doing super ambiguous filmmaking, um, and it's sort of gone away. But I recently watched uh Under the Silver Lake, and that was like I I loved that movie so much, and that was one that was very much you could sit with it, you can think about it. I just like really sat with me for ages because it was such a slow-moving mystery, and that was really just and just odd.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

I think it's that that that it's like a remnant of like that popularity of Mumblecore. I don't know, like Mumblecore is like early 2000s, like really low budget, nothing really happening, but sort of you know, we just sit in this feeling, and people were eating it up. So I think they're like, we can probably do a blockbuster of that for three mil and fuck it, you know. I love it, it's great stuff, it's good stuff. What have you given it? I'm giving it four out of five. What else were you putting your little peepers on to?

SPEAKER_00 15:40

I'm gonna do this as like a trilogy. Whoa. But I decided I was sick over winter. Uh, and when I'm sick, I like to watch a Lord of the Rings film. Hells yeah. Um it's just cozy because Hobbiton's so cozy. Uh it was the first time I decided to watch the extended editions. Oh yeah. Which, you know, I think a lot of people go, you've gotta watch it. I am in the can so cool. I'm in the can.

SPEAKER_01 16:01

If you're showing anybody Lord of the Rings, don't fucking show them a four-hour edit. If you can, find one shorter than the theatrical, find a two and a half hour one, cut a bunch of stuff. Because quite frankly, you know, they're great, but you've got to watch them, like them, and then check it out. Yeah, I'm never showing someone the deleted scenes of The Office, you know, straight up the word. Check, like it, then watch it. How how how do you I think I've only done it once and they're they're good. In my opinion, they made each film worse.

SPEAKER_00 16:29

Yeah, gotcha.

SPEAKER_01 16:30

So I was like They've edited it out, they've done a good editor.

SPEAKER_00 16:32

Yeah, every single time they were like, they've edited out just like Pippin' getting big from drinking the tree water. And you're going, that's a lot of tree water chit chat. And then being like, I miss getting fucked up and high back in the Shire. And that's the driving force for it being like, then we probably need to fight and kill to get our high back. Yeah. It's like, what is this?

SPEAKER_01 16:53

I guess it's just motivation. There's also, I remember like in the first one, there's like a big scene where it I hear all the presents I got.

SPEAKER_00 16:59

Oh, it goes on forever. I they're so they were so good at cutting it. You realize how lean the those like near three hour ones are.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

They pack so much in, it's so impressive.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

I think it also fucked their pacing. Because I think the for the length, I think the Lord of the Rings movies are really well paced, but I thought these extended editions, I was like, oh. You don't need this.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

No, of course not. Every single time you go, I see why you cut that. They're bonuses for people that love Lord of the Rings and want to see the extra stuff. I have no idea why fucking annoying people are just like, hey, I'm gonna show you Lord of the Rings. Guess what? I'm gonna make it a fucking miserable experience. Horrible. If you're trying to get someone to do that, don't do that.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

And the third one, they're like, you know that eye in the sky? He's got a mouth. And then that guy came out and he's just a mouth.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

That is a good scene, though. I like the mouth scene. That's freaky. It's mouth of Sauron. Hated the mouth of Sauron. Uh in terms of aesthetically or just like your aesthetically, it was fine.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

Yeah. It was it was odd to have such a long talk prior to the war.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

I want to use a bit of karaoke for that four minutes. Look, it's a gorgeous voice, but you just gotta you gotta you gotta wrap it up.

SPEAKER_00 18:03

I think they did I'm I'm shocked they shot a lot of it, if I'm being honest. You it's nuts every time I look up that Peter Jackson got to make those movies the way that he did.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

I uh it's just you just like because I've seen uh what was his film, Bad Taste, which is him doing a micro-budget New Zealand alien thing. It's very fun, but looks like dog shit. Then he did uh the the Muppets me evil evil Muppets one where they're all fucking on drugs and coke. And then I think he did one good film, I can't remember what it's called, and then they were like, here's a billion dollars, good luck, do them back to back. We hope I hope you nail it. Do it all practical, we don't care.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

Well, you know, you look it up, they're all they all only cost like a hundred million to make. Yeah. And so, you know, for the for the price of like half of the new Avengers movie, you got the trilogy of the Lord of the Rings, and the uh and an IP that just keeps bleeding money.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

It's crazy. Absolutely shitting money as well.

SPEAKER_00 19:00

You know, and after I was look, and I do I think I do just like the Lord of the Rings world, and so I was like, fuck it, I'm gonna put on the Hobbit. Just it can't be done. No, it's it looks bad, it looks bad. And that's the main issue with it. Because I think the story's good of The Hobbit. I love that book, but man, that is such an ugly-looking film.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

Someone's edited down to a film. I I've been wanting to watch that.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

It just doesn't help because it's not visually appearing. Yeah, I know. Look, I remember there's that GoPro shot in the barrels. It's nonsense. Which is just you'd think Peter Jackson had never directed before, and yet you know he has. No, he's crushed.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

And you're just like, yeah. And it's so cruel that studios like, we're gonna not do a New Zealand. It's like, this is literally you see why he went out with just the Beatles documentaries for a while.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

I would have loved to see those two by Guillermo del Toro. I reckon that that would have been awesome. Yeah. So big shame. And I'm sure Andy Circus is gonna make an absolute turd of a film next year. You seen that? No, what's he doing? Oh, so he's doing the hunt for Gollum. Gotcha, where's that set? Is that tackle? Yeah, sort of a Clone Wars-esque sort of probably like that guy that made that new Animal Farm and Venom 2.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

And Mowgli. And Mowgli.

SPEAKER_00 20:15

He's back. He's back in a big way, and he's making himself the star. God, he's good.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

He's good. God, he's good.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

Carl, what'd you give Lord of the Rings? Oh, like. They're all I think I've always sh to me, the first one's like a five, the second one's a four and a half, and the third one's a four. Yeah. That's how I sort of rate them. And for the extended editions, they all drop another half star. Yeah, fair as where I was at. Pretty brave. It is fun to watch the extended version of a movie you absolutely love and go nah.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Yeah, you think, yeah, they're they're pretty tight. Yeah, pick done.

SPEAKER_00 20:48

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 20:52

Carl, it's the flick of the year, people have been saying. The the film of the year is Odyssey. We did a whole month on Greek mythology because we were freaking obsessed with the Odyssey. Um we haven't we've talked about it a little bit, but what what's what's your vibe? What'd you see? Have you seen it?

SPEAKER_00 21:09

Uh I've seen it twice. Great both times. Even loved it more the second time, honestly. I was the same. Um look, I'm not gonna deny it. It's a it's a broy film and it's fucking sick. It looks great, it feels good, it feels like a blockbuster. Love it. Just absolutely love it.

SPEAKER_01 21:25

It's hard to hate. I've got like I've got notes where I'm just like, don't like this, don't like this. But then you see him on a big boat, and you're like, that's pretty fucking cool. It's hard to be like, you know, wow, the shot's a bit out of focus. Uh, my only my big, my big fucking thing that I think I is my only like real thing I'm not enjoying, and I uh I stand by this on the second watch, is I do not like Tom Holland in uh in this role. He was not doing it for me, I feel like, and this is not against Tom Holland. He is up against some of the best actors who know this project's gonna be big and huge, giving their all. And giving their Like 30-year careers best. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

This is on a second watch, I was like, this is the best Matt Damon's ever been.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

Yeah. I'd say it's the best. Um, who's the guy who plays the old man? I'm going absolutely crazy. Um John Linguzama, yeah. At the start, I'm like, he was playing it pretty broad. And then by the end, I'm like, my god, what a performance. Just career best from him. Just like everyone's nailing it.

SPEAKER_00 22:25

And Tom Holland's Samantha Mortner as well. Samantha Morton. Is that the one who plays uh Cersei? Yeah, just terrific. Tom Holland. She's a precog. Do you realize she's a pre-cog? She's the precog in Minority Report. Oh, really? Wow. That's her. That's a great film. And so I'm like, whoa, you're such a good actress. So good.

SPEAKER_01 22:43

Damn. That's a great film as well. But anyway, when everyone's doing that, and Tom Holland, I think maybe he's just approached his character differently. I feel like he's played it very noble, but we introduced to a hole of men trying to fuck his mother. He's like, I'm semi the hero of this story. I'm like, I don't think this is how you should be playing it personally. And I just think, yeah, people are acting a bit as well.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

Oh, yeah, Robert Patterson also killing it.

SPEAKER_01 23:06

Right. Straight up killing it. He can't die. He's the best actor in the world. Genuinely career-based. Like, he's just that fucking can someone get that pet? Like, it's just he's just nailing it.

SPEAKER_00 23:17

Who would say beggars the way who would he must have said that, and everybody on the set went, that's the best possible way to say that line. I can't believe you've done that.

SPEAKER_01 23:25

So revolting, is so fucking good, so slimy. I can't believe how fuck he's like Maccavillion, just like him with a knife like out like a goddamn theater play. Him sheafing it when Tom Holland then divided in the shadows. Just loved it. And I just think when everyone else is doing that, like it kind of shows the through line of the Tom Holland stuff is kind of lacking. But then the Matt Damon stuff. My god, you're just like, oh this they cannot catch a break, these boys.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

He's having a tough time. He's having a tough time out there on the seas, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

It's just great stuff. No, uh, no, fantastic. Well, what are you giving the artists say?

SPEAKER_00 24:02

The I'm just giving it a five. I just enjoy it. I the I'll watch it forever now. Uh it's just I'm gonna see it a third time before I leave cinemas. Mainly because I actually just thought the fucking the sound design is something I'll never get to hear again, probably.

SPEAKER_01 24:15

The first time I went, I went to a very a standard definition and a very big one. And I was everyone was like, the noise is cracked. I could barely hear it. So I was kind of like, I was like, nah, second time I was in a small dense theatre, and my god, that sound I could imagine an i you saw an IMAX as well. Yeah, I imagine they just rocked your cock off. Just fucking vibrating. Yeah, you're not wrong. Yeah, circumcised by the sound.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

It was squiggling away, and I was like, God, somebody grab it! There was honestly down the front, the guy was brushing everybody's away, and he was like, sorry, you lost them, it's in the tickets.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

Same happened in the tenon. I like he worked out the uh sound design from Tenon.

SPEAKER_00 24:53

But some people have been also like being like, Oh, the the Odyssey has bad sound design. I think it really depends on the cinema you see it in. Because I saw C mine was completely different. Yeah. So I saw because I ended up when I saw the second time I went to an event cinema with Dolby, and that was the better sound over IMAX. Yeah, gotcha.

SPEAKER_01 25:11

But IMAX is the you know, it's it's a lot he's playing around with it, yeah, and I just think some cinemas aren't even it's something to do with he's doing a bit janky. Yeah. And then Sunday Cinema's like, I'm so sorry, we just boosted it.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

When I worked at a cinema, you were essentially given like a list of the specs and things like that that you would need to level to go for the movie and how it's done. Um and the cinema I was at definitely got to a point where they just ignored that. Yeah. And they were like, if this is an equal thing, now we don't have to waste the time. Yeah. So I'm sure there's cinemas that don't bother. Yeah. It's fair. Why would you? Yeah. What have you given us?

SPEAKER_01 25:50

I'm getting a four and a half.

SPEAKER_00 25:51

Well, there you go. I'll bounce off of yours um your critique of Tom Holland. Oh, huge. Because uh the I agree that I think he stands out in that movie. I don't think it's a bad performance, but I think he does stand out in the film.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

I don't think uh Yeah, it's not a bad performance, just more everyone's nailing it. And and almost I always think Christopher Nolan's also like I didn't make a lot of money. So he's like, let me hire essentially probably the second, probably uh after Timmy, probably the biggest. Yeah, probably the youngest. So I think that's the one. Same with like Zendaya and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

Like, I mean he's it and it worked. He's got like this one point like maybe six billion dollar film. Yeah, um, but yeah, it was one of those things where I went, oh, you know, I think you know, will Tom Holland be around forever? Um, and then I saw that new Spider-Man movie, and that's the best Tom Holland's ever been. And I was like, Oh, I forget you are like very good as Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_01 26:47

He's I think that's the problem. I think he's bringing a bit of the Spider-Man energy to that role, and it's just a bit off. Whereas when he's in Spider-Man, he's perfect for Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_00 26:56

And I think because in this Spider-Man is probably the first time he's asked to not play a boy. Yeah. And so his performance is very different to those other three Spider-Man movies, which I really liked in this new Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_01 27:11

I felt like he's playing a bit like, what's going on, man? I'm like, you're you're older than me. So let's just, you know, you know, let's just do this whole thing. But yeah, no, this new one.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

Yeah, so I think in the new one, he's I think in that last one he's meant to be 18, and this is like a six-year time jump. So it's like he's 20 something. Yeah. Um, and I'd say it's got a bit of a commentary on like the male loneliness epidemic, which I thought was really strong.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

He's scrolling 4chan, just like he's having a tough time. There's a white name, stupid male. I'm not I'm the alpha. I should get the girl. It's fucking ridiculous. You know, I would watch a good two hours of that, you know. Was that the Imagine?

SPEAKER_00 27:48

Yeah, imagine if Spider-Man was just a troll. That's what this is.

SPEAKER_01 27:53

God, it would go hard. It would, yeah, it would go hard. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

Um, but I had a really good time with this, and I thought I wasn't going to because all the marketing was terrible. But unf I've they have had to cut a movie around a twist that I don't know why they bothered because I think everybody knew going in, but the first sort of like three-quarters of the movie is a mystery. And so they've to market it must have been frustrating.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

In my mind, in my mind, it's Spider-Man versus five ninjas. Yeah. Five red ninjas. Yeah. So I'm I'm blown away with a twist.

SPEAKER_00 28:24

Yeah, honestly, at the beginning of it, they were like, These five ninjas, they like to sit over here and you go, Oh, and actually just not doing anything with the ninjas, and they're like, You're not doing anything with the ninjas. And I was like, them, but thought you marketed entirely around the ninjas, and like we're doing something else.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

It's crazy to me because I feel like, yeah, this one was like uh uh out the gate, but like so it's gonna probably make I don't know, four billion dollars. My man, the ninjas got everyone into the into the I guess it's just got good word of mouth and everyone likes a Spider-Man movie, so good for them.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

Have you ever seen a destined Daniel Cretin film? No, he did Short Term 12 because he's the director, he's the director. Uh, and I think Short Term 12 is like one of the best dramas I've ever seen. It's an awesome, very intimate movie, and he has brought a level of intimacy to like the relationships in this film that are so strong to the point that he's gone, it's gonna be big action, bombastic. He's like, But to me, the climax is gonna be a conversation. Yeah, great. And it is one of these things where I went, wow, I did not realise how wrapped up in this film I was that I'm just really moved by this conversation that's happening right now.

SPEAKER_01 29:25

I feel like Josh Whedon gets a bit of a flack, mainly because of his crimes, but uh, but that that that like quippiness he gets, like it was always underlined with like really nice, tender moments. And like I remember he got like flack for like in that second Avengers one be like, Well, if I just go to a cabin and hang out, and they're like, they're gonna be bored. There's like, well, that's just give them there, needs to be these moments, otherwise, this nonsense in the sky doesn't mean anything. Yeah, I don't think a Marvel film's had that for a while. So it's nice to hear they're like, hey guys, we do need the emotional pay force, otherwise, this is this is pointless.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

So I'm glad. It's also just packed with extras. Yeah, great. Like the the main villain is just like somebody that travels through extras. And all the and it's a physical, like they it's not with effects, and so they've just gotten dancers who like can like spin and turn really well, and so that just made it feel really rich. A lot of the movie takes place outside.

SPEAKER_01 30:15

I I saw the clips, I couldn't I was like, thank god they've gone got off the green screen. Yeah, like thank god that that third Spider-Man, I know everyone like loved it, but it looks like a fucking horror, it looks like a Super Bowl commercial with the whole thing. So I can't believe they were like, What are we had at a key light?

SPEAKER_00 30:31

Whoa, oh my god, a shadow. There's a part for a gag where he accidentally like swings into a wedding for a hot second, and it's like 150 people all dressed up just for like a short bit. And I went, Wow, movies haven't had this money in a while.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

Yeah, 100%. You're just like, guys, I know these cost like 300 million dollars. They've got to look it. Like you've got the money to like give everyone a stake for like catering, just a higher range of extras, you know.

SPEAKER_00 30:59

I don't know if it's like they finally got out of COVID. Like, I know that that Spider-Man movie was entirely shot over COVID, so I'm sure they because that movie is and I re-watched that movie recently, and that is like an empty film. Yeah, and this is like so full with people. Great. Um, but yeah, really enjoyed this, thought it was very fun. I know it just turns out I like everybody was like, yeah, we all went and saw it opening weekend. I was like, the new Spider-Man, they're like, you I mean, you're just like Spider-Man. Batman and Spider-Man, this is the first time.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

And then when I left the remnants, people were like, Wow, check them out.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

That Batman 2, I'll be there. Everything could fall apart, and Batman and Spider-Man will live forever. But like Spider-Man's like otherworldly. I reckon that third uh like Spider-Verse movie is gonna be fucking huge. I think so. It's been such a long wait. It has been a long wait. And I feel like they were like coming out next year, like that they've said that every year. Yeah. They've been like, no, no, what's coming out next year? And you're like, have you made it? And they're like, God no.

SPEAKER_01 31:50

We made Hail Mary. Fuck, it's a lot easier to do space, who knew? Then animate so they're constantly just like, look at this frame. It took us weeks. You're like, oh god.

SPEAKER_00 32:00

One frame Spider-Verse entered, there's like four directors on it, and you're like, oh, that must have been a nightmare.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

What are you giving what are you giving Spider-Man? Give it a three and a half. Oscar, what do you want to talk about next? Carl, we both watched another Pixar film because again, we're we're touching 30 pretty aggressively. And you know what?

SPEAKER_00 32:23

The only thing to me I'm like months away from touching 30 and it's really hanging over. Okay, it is not good. Yeah, I'm looking more tired, I'm losing a lot of hair. It's it's it's a tough, I'm having a tough year. Luckily, I'm full of youth. I took a bunch of pills.

SPEAKER_01 32:35

So it's all happened.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

A part of me thinks maybe you're stealing my youth, but I don't want to.

SPEAKER_01 32:43

It's what it feels like. Yeah, it feels like this podcast is just a way for you to fucking the mics are getting into you, they're plugged into your soul.

SPEAKER_00 32:50

You're taking my voice.

SPEAKER_02 32:52

My voice.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

No, but we do his thing. You can look old, but your your youthfulness your your hunt for nostalgia never dies. Yeah. Um, and so we went, hey, let's both watch Wally, you know, uh uh on a night out. Is that crazy? Is that bonkers? Uh and we were pretty king. We were pro-Wally. Yeah. It came about because we were like, oh, we're pro-Wally. Yeah. Everyone's pro-Wally. Everyone, I feel like it, it's no, I haven't heard anyone be say it's my favourite Pixar, but everyone's like, that's a four out of five film. It's the Ortours Pixar film. I've been telling people I loved Wally. I've been telling as a child, I went, that's a but a bunch of fucking, you know, Oscar Bates nonsense. You know, where my Toy Story 2's at. But as you age up, you go, you know what? The silence, the quiet beforehand, that's beautiful. Look at them, such a rich world, and they got a great environmental message. How good. It's the adult kids film. So we were like, it's gonna go fucking hard. Let's go watch it.

SPEAKER_00 33:49

Uh bad. Yeah. Hated it. Yeah. I thought this was one of the worst pixel films. I couldn't believe how much I hated it. And I felt embarrassed I'd been telling people I've liked Wally my whole life. To the point that now I need to go back and check out UP, you know.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

I don't like up actually. I I don't care for the start, and I think the nonsense it's actually I don't like this. Anyway, we're back on Wally. Yeah. It's crap. It's it's one thing we'll say is, well, one thing I'll say is it's fucking gorgeous. And I In moments. In moments. Uh moments, of course. Uh but let's go into it. Because you've got the start, which is great, which is Wally and Eve fucking about.

SPEAKER_00 34:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:27

We've got Wally, very cute little guy, trying to, you know. Is he? I thought one, Wally was a creep, and two. He was a creep.

SPEAKER_00 34:34

Wally sort of sucked as a lead character. 100%.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

He's a creep to Eve when they get there. And she's not consenting. I'll say it. It was honestly. It was a bit problematic. I'll say it.

SPEAKER_00 34:44

It was very obsession-y. Yeah. Having seen it was just very obsession-y.

SPEAKER_01 34:49

I'm not seeing obsession, but very obsession-you've got to be.

SPEAKER_00 34:50

Not very obsession-y?

SPEAKER_01 34:52

Yeah, very big obsession. Martin's Wally character.

SPEAKER_00 34:54

Big it feels like feels like Wally made a wish.

SPEAKER_01 34:57

Yeah, wish wasn't to save the planet, it was to get a goddamn girlfriend.

SPEAKER_00 35:03

And unfortunately, she's very white. You make a big point of that in the film, and that was a bit off on Wally.

SPEAKER_01 35:08

It wasn't off. But here's the thing Eve's a hot piece of ass, and I just think the crates were a bit too crazy. Eve could get it. Those eyes, my god. Now, that's that bit. Yeah. I I'm very much enjoying this, but I feel like, you know. I think it could have been paced better. What is it? It's about 30 minutes, isn't it? It's like 20, but it feels 30. Yeah. It's not a very long movie. We get we get, yeah, we get Wally at the start fucking about by himself, and then we get Eve rocking up there, looking for the plant, and then she gets shut down. He's in hibernation. Then they go on the rocket.

SPEAKER_00 35:39

Yeah. And then they go up and they find the human race. They've all become very lazy. You've got like three human characters that are run into, but it's mostly about these other robots as well.

SPEAKER_01 35:51

The robot upgrade is a point that I forgot about. It also has honestly aged pretty poorly. Even though you might think, oh, we're all addicted to our freaking phones now. It just feels a bit like it does feel like twenty it is 20 years old. Yeah. And the commentary is definitely, I think, gone now. It's not just like we're all fat slobs or watch TV, you know. We gotta go outside and experience life. I feel that that's gone now. Also, we kill the environment. So it's just, you know, it's it's it's over. It just feels a bit disconnected and it wasn't as great as a rewatch.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

I think maybe because it is Pixar's probably its most aggressive message in a film in the environmental state that it wants to talk about. And because it is 20 years old, it wasn't it just hasn't aged well.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

Yes. You know, so we've got to try and get them on board. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:45

I think now if you're our age, I think you do care about the environment. And I vote for the environment. And maybe that's because I saw Wally as a kid. I don't really fucking know. Yeah, we had to do Earth Hour. What happened to Earth Hour? I think we gave up. I think we I think we actually went. I hope we didn't lose Earth Hour. Isn't that the reason we have daisies?

SPEAKER_01 37:04

The flowers?

SPEAKER_00 37:05

Yeah. No and the album.

SPEAKER_01 37:09

No, I don't know what happened to Earth Hour. I think we all, I think we went, I think we're done. I I remember talking to our environmentally uh our friend who went to uh It's Algore. It's Algorithm. We're friends with Algore. He's a great guy. Big friend.

SPEAKER_00 37:22

It's still active. Nobody listens. It's 8 30 to 9 30 p.m. March.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Have I said a date?

SPEAKER_00 37:31

No, just whenever. Tell you what, as a gay man, I really only put on a lamp. So I'm doing my part.

SPEAKER_01 37:38

No, I think we've all sort of uh yeah. I asked uh our friend who works in the environment. I was like, so what's the go? She's like, oh we'll we're done 20 years, we're done. We we we've lost. It's it's it's over. I went, ah, okay. That Wally message, maybe we should just get out of here. Just get out of here. Um, but yeah, no, Wally was definitely um, yeah, the robot nonsense is crazy. Yeah. It's a lot of fucking around, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 38:00

It is a lot of fucking around. It feels very vignette-y once they get up to space. And it's just a lot of where's the plan? Is the plan over here?

SPEAKER_01 38:08

It's such a boring because the captain's not even like he's like he's like a howl and that like that sort of stuff. I just can't believe that the premises get the plant to a specific thing rather than the the the captain deck being like pressing a button that we got a plant, let's go home. Yeah, that's an annoying thing for them to do. Yeah. It's just yeah. It's just them doing this. It's it's just a bit toothless. It is fuck Wally, fuck your creepy little pervy ass. I'll say it. You know, I'm anti-Wally.

SPEAKER_00 38:37

Yeah. I'm anti-Wally. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:39

And you can you can quote us on that.

SPEAKER_00 38:40

And just because I don't wanna I don't wanna come as like a as a Pixar hater, I just need everybody to know I did truly love hoppers. Really loved hoppers.

SPEAKER_01 38:50

It's the modern day Wally, Bill would say.

SPEAKER_00 38:53

Probably is because that's the environmental one too. And it's like nonchalance, like, yeah, we know it's fucked but like what are we like? I can't wait for 20 years later when I hate hoppers. It's gonna be it's gonna be a moment. Oh my god, but Lampo, you gotta just channel Lampo is a great fight. That'll be really good. I bet it'll be like there needs to be more bamboo.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

Like, oh my god. We should ride a Pixar. This is just flowing. This is just flowing.

SPEAKER_00 39:15

What's the message? There should be more bamboo. Yeah, a thing that chews up a lot of water. Yeah, shut up.

SPEAKER_01 39:20

Shut up. We got loads of water. Fuck off.

SPEAKER_00 39:22

You've been to the sea lately. Shitting water over there. What do you what'd you give Wally?

SPEAKER_01 39:28

I gave it a three uh out of five. What did you give Wally?

SPEAKER_00 39:32

I you reminded me we watched it prior to the podcast, and I quickly went and reviewed it. And in my heart, I went to give it a two and a half, and then I just dropped it to a two. And over the course of chatting about it right now, one and a half.

SPEAKER_01 39:46

That's brutal.

SPEAKER_00 39:48

That is crazy hateful. I would. I'm nuts. I straight up would rather watch the kissing booth too than watch Wally again. I really disliked Wally. I thought Wally was a bore.

SPEAKER_01 40:02

You're gonna come back in 10 years' time and be like, I gave Wally a one and a half.

SPEAKER_00 40:08

Wally's not a one and a half. I'm setting myself up to like it later. That's so true. Because then I could be one of those people that was like, you know, I was a hater.

SPEAKER_01 40:15

You were a lover, then hater, then lover. You know it. It's the classic Wally spike. It's the Wally, it's the Wally parameter. You know, it keeps flipping back. Carl, we also watched another film together. That's right. We're friends outside of this. That's right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:35

We hang out. We have. Um, we watch Titanic. Yeah. And look, if people actually want to know the context, we watched Titanic and then we watched Wally. And so it was a double build. It was a double build. And maybe that was tough for Wally to come hot off the heels of Titanic.

SPEAKER_01 40:46

Maybe, yeah, look, five hours of watching films and three of those are Titanic, you're gonna be a bit burnt out. It's gonna be tough.

SPEAKER_00 40:52

It's gonna be a tough watch. Look, the um we're a part of a group that watches Titanic yearly. Uh one person absolutely adores it, and their enthusiasm is totally wrong. I've always liked Titanic, but now I'm such a lover of Titanic.

SPEAKER_01 41:07

It has really only grown on me uh the more the the couple of years I've now watched it. At the start, when I first watched it young, I was a bit like frickin' chick flick, you know. Lame lame, you know. I want I want to see freaking, I don't know, Django Unchained. I don't know who I was. Um, but the more you watch it, the more you go, fuck. They are blowing up a ship. The spectacle on display. It's unreal. It is nuts. They get shots of a full, they're just you can't complain about a film that goes, We built a boat and then we sunk it. Yeah. I just I can't like what am I to do? And then on top of that, they put a bunch of people on that boat and went, everyone's gonna fall and they're gonna hurt themselves.

SPEAKER_00 41:49

We don't care, we're gonna film it. Yeah, and then we're just gonna give two of the best hoddies of the time who are gonna do like a great performance. Then you've got I think Billy Zane almost doing uh Robert Patterson in the Odyssey so slimy a mustache. Whirling a mustache, he wants a target of the rail track. Yeah, oh my god, it's so good. And I think the best thing about James Cameron is he used to lace his blockbusters with a tiny bit of camp, and that's what made them so inherently likable, and it made them such a movie.

SPEAKER_01 42:25

So appealing as well. It's a broad film, and not like in a bad way, just more like we are almost doing like a not like a teleplay, but almost like a very like act like a very like a play almost, like it's very like a like a musical almost in that.

SPEAKER_00 42:40

Yeah, they could burst into song at any point. Yeah, totally. And I think the best thing about the movie is I think he spends so much time getting you into this romance and the just the spectacle of enjoying the ship. Because all of the first half of the movie is really well paced. Yeah. Like the they hit the iceberg at 90 minutes in, spoilers. The and so the next like 90 minutes after that is even at a quicker pace. Now it's a thriller.

SPEAKER_01 43:03

It goes, it's three hours fifteen. And I mean, look, uh if yes, I thought some of the stuff at the start is a little bit there's no fat. There's a little bit of fat. There's no fat.

SPEAKER_00 43:12

There's a lot of you need that because the closure to the film is what she does at the end. Oh screw it's what she does at the end. There's no fat. When they're like, okay, whatever. There's no fat. I don't know what you want Mom to fucking say there's no fat. There's a little bit of fat.

SPEAKER_01 43:27

But what's great about But you forget about the fat after you watch 90 minutes of the quickest thing. It goes so quick at the end. That there's like 30 minutes of them on that at the end. Fantastic. It's a lot of there's a lot of submarine stuff at the end.

SPEAKER_00 43:38

What would you do? You'd just cut out the old lady. Yeah, okay. So what would your ending be? I don't know, bro.

SPEAKER_01 43:43

Just that she's there. I don't mind if she's remembering it, you know, on a beach. Boring. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:48

And that's why you're not James Cameron. Look, because he goes, You've got to get invested in the old lady now, too. And that's what's genius. No, he what's so good is because he's doing a movie that is going, I think this is a good movie. And What's gonna happen on this day to them is they'll just hit an iceberg and be thrust into a life or death situation. Yeah. And that's what I think really fucking clicks about it. Is he so interested in getting you invested in it pre-the event?

SPEAKER_01 44:12

I'm invested in Rose and Jack. Yeah. I don't care about this old lady. But that's Rose things. You're joking. That's Rose joking.

SPEAKER_00 44:18

Oh, so you missed it.

SPEAKER_01 44:19

I thought that's why you thought there wasn't any fat you missed it. Yeah, I was thinking it's a lot of fat with this lady hanging about, but I thought you were scamming. You thought that was Leo. You were like, Leo's looking like a big thing. Leo's in a wig. It looks bad, but God, you never look bad really. He's a great guy. Um it's so great. It's just sick. Uh and they blow up the fucking, they just fucking go for it. Isn't that nice? He's, you're right. Like you are invested in these guys. And to the point that you're like, I don't think Rose and Jack actually have like a really a moment when the ship's like like sinking in turtle. Like they have like, of course they're running around, but they don't feel like they're like in love. Like they're just let's get off the boat.

SPEAKER_00 44:57

It really feels like two people just trying to survive. Yeah. And I think that's what's so good about the last 90 minutes is that it's just two people trying to fucking survive a situation. It's great. It is great. It's absolutely great. Who knew James Cameron could do it? God, he's good. He has moments in that new avatar. I think that new avatar could have been the best one, but he is bogged down by a lot of whale fucking politics.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

I don't know why he bothered with that. Look, here's the thing you say there's no fat in this, I say there's no fat in that. So how about there's no way of blubber. There's no blubber in that.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

Either way, look, and I think what they should have done, take spider out of avatar, bopman to Titanic.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

Resting on that little iceberg, God would be good. God'd be good, isn't he?

unknown 45:37

Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 45:38

It's a it's just I mean something like little micro things. I feel like just all pay off. God's good, isn't it? Uh Carl, what'd you give Titanic? I gave it a five. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:47

Actually, I don't know if I I'm gonna give it a five.

SPEAKER_01 45:50

Yeah, I've I've gone from I think I started like a three, I've gone all the way to a four. Probably next year I'll do a four and a half, and hey, maybe I'll go down again. You're anti-five. You're not a big fiver, are you? On on letter, it's gotta be my favorite. Yeah, it's gonna be my favourite. Yeah. I've got I've got little niggly things. There's a lot of fat in this one, you know. I'm not giving a five-star to a fatty film, you know. I'm a lean fiver. Lean five-star films.

SPEAKER_00 46:13

Okay. Um, what's absolutely excellent is we have been getting lots of emails lately. I don't know what's maybe spurred that on. Um maybe it's a new maybe it's our new lease on life that we have.

SPEAKER_01 46:26

Ask www.t at podcast podcast at gmail.com question recommending a movie. Just saying hi. We love to hear it, and please send it. We need to reply to some Oh sorry.

SPEAKER_00 46:42

Yeah, we do need to reply to some, but straight up we've had a few emails, um, and we do a first come, first served basis. Um, and so we're going to be doing The Last House next week.

SPEAKER_01 46:52

Yeah, which is a Netflix original. Yeah. Um, we will get the email up uh next week, but we're very keen. We can't wait. So yeah, if you've got a film, uh send us an email. If you just want to say hi, got some lovely ones uh also at the camera. You can say hi. We'll reply. One of us will reply. Precisely we like to keyboard it up. Of course, of course. Keyboard it up.

unknown 47:10

Bada.

SPEAKER_01 47:11

Uh thank you very much for listening. And yeah. Whatever, you know. You get you got a sign off?

SPEAKER_00 47:19

No.

SPEAKER_01 47:19

No. I never do.

SPEAKER_00 47:21

No. I I'm waiting for it.

SPEAKER_01 47:22

It's kind of your it's kind of your it's kind of your moment, isn't it? You know?

SPEAKER_00 47:25

It's like I like people to think I've just I've left. Yeah. It's good. People to think you're wrapping it up and I'm just gonna do it. Yeah, you're literally out of the limo. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 47:33

Yeah, you got you're such a diva. You know, you set a one-hour timer, and the second that goes off, you just leave. Constantly I'm trying to fill the air at the end.

SPEAKER_00 47:40

I've sat in Sonny's the whole time, too.

SPEAKER_01 47:42

Been just been looking at yourself. Smoking me. It's pretty aggressive.

SPEAKER_00 47:45

Been blowing smoke in your face. You wouldn't believe how big the cigar is in your mouth. It's huge. I took I ripped it off of a child, too. I said, You can't you can't have all of those Cubans to yourself. Those damn children, aren't they? Just run around the Cubans and all that.

SPEAKER_01 47:59

Sydney's got a uh a Cuban cigar crisis. It's a Cuban missile crisis. That's what they uh that's it. Anyway, Carl, goodbye.