Who Would Watch This?
Who Would Watch This?
What We Watched This April
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This Month Oscar and Carl watch some fun movies and want to talk about them!!!!
Here is what we watched this month:
- Zoom Month Rankings
- Project Hail Mary
- Zootopia 2
- No Other Choice
- Kramer v Kramer
- Wuthering Heights
- Whale Shark Jack
- Half of Superman
- The Drama
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My name is Oscar. My name is Carl and this is what we watched this April bit of March, bit of March. Mostly March. Mostly March. Right. And we're squeezing in April, you know?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we're halfway through April. Yeah, yeah. Oh, wait, no, this will come back out at the end towards the end of April. Well, I've shattered the illusion then, haven't I?
SPEAKER_00We record early. Yeah, sometimes we're ahead of the schedule. Is that a crime? Is that a problem? I'll be honest, I believe Zoom month went over when it went mid-month, you know. When we came up with a cracking concept. I mean, that's the problem. You know, when you when when lightning strikes, you gotta go. And maybe sometimes it's not on the 14th. That's an issue.
SPEAKER_02My next pitch is for us to do movies with verse in the title.
SPEAKER_00Ooh, okay. I'm liking that. I don't know for that. Yeah, no, I I could really go for that. I can't think I the only one I've is a film I watched recently, which was very good, but I can't imagine uh we could do it. We could do it for the podcast. I was gonna say my my first film was Kramer vs Kramer. But do you want to do that for the for the who would watch this?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that'd be good. I'm sure there's lots of comedy to pull from the There is a lot of comedy.
SPEAKER_00I think Merrill's freaking phoning it in. No, Carl, it is it is a month little review. We're just chatting about some films we've watched this month and we want to talk about, you know. You know, we're not always negative, sometimes we're positive. I mean, looking at the films, a lot of positivity down here. That's right.
SPEAKER_02He's absolutely right. Um, before we start, what would you have ranked our beautiful Zoom movies that we got?
SPEAKER_00Of course, let's just recap. So we did uh we did Unfriended, we did Mercy, and we did War of the Worlds, and then to top it off, we had Zoom, Tim Allen's Zoom. I'm immediately putting Unfriended right at the top, and then it's a race at the bottom.
SPEAKER_02It sure is, isn't it?
SPEAKER_00It's what makes it fun. Yeah, it's this this is tough, and I can't believe I'm really saying this. I believe functionally, I think Mercy is a better film than War of the Worlds. I agree. However, I am putting War of the Worlds just in terms of it as a product is a higher in my mind artistically, and then Mercy is lower. And unfortunately, Zoom is dead at the bottom, even though I think Mercy is a disgusting little cash grab, you've got to give it props, you know, for somewhat like a in a business sense, you know, get Tim uh get Chris Pratt and make some money, you know. Whereas what was the what was the page for Tim Allen, you know?
SPEAKER_02Couldn't tell you. And you know, Chris Pratt's got a Tim Allen energy to him now as well. So the I would do, I think I would do Unfriended number one, Leagues and Bounds, what a breathtaking film. And then I would probably put Mercy over War of the Worlds and then Zoom Dead Last. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's great.
SPEAKER_02It's simply simply one of the worst to ever do it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. It's it's it's not good. It's not good. So there you go. Better Zoom rank. It's good stuff. Oscar, would you like to go first? I would love to go first. Do you want to go for one that we've both not seen, or do you want me to go for one that we've both seen?
SPEAKER_02Oh, you can start off with one that we've both seen.
SPEAKER_00That's huge. Okay. I believe we haven't talked about it yet, but Project Hail Mary.
SPEAKER_02Yes, yes, Project Hail Mary. We both went and saw this. I've seen it twice now as well. Oh, fantastic. So there you go. And I read the book. So I'm a little Maryhead. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, look at you go. It's Chris Lord and Phil Miller. No, Phil Phil. Phil Lord and Chris Miller, and we're nailing it. And they're back in a big way. Back in a big way. They've done Spider-Verse, they've done 21 Jump Street, they've done LEGO Movie. Uh, and they've got a Ryan Gosling in a little spacesuit. So good for this one.
SPEAKER_02And a puppet. Yeah, a little puppet. I'm obsessed with the making, I'm obsessed with the videos of the puppet, if I'm being honest with you. Have you watched any of them behind the scenes?
SPEAKER_00I've seen a few behind the scenes. I like when he does this. Yeah, it's good stuff. And he's like, woo! Carl's raising his hands.
SPEAKER_01I love a puppet.
SPEAKER_02I don't know what else to tell you.
SPEAKER_00I mean, here's the thing. From just hearing your voice, you can tell.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and I think as well, I think this movie's absolutely cut off the legs of Mandalorian and Grogu, which is the exact same thing of a man and a puppet. Yeah. Wow. This is way better than that. Here's the thing.
SPEAKER_00Audiences are only willing to indulge in one, but they will indulge in one. They will indulge in one. Here's the thing. When you get Kermit in on screen, holy shit, you know, I'm there, but I can't, I can't I couldn't do it like an Elmo as well. Yeah. You know, I'm I'm not I'm not gluttonous. I'm not fucking I'm not a sinner, you know. Uh this was really fun. This is really nice.
SPEAKER_02It's deeply I think the thing that elevates it is it's not only fun, but it's shockingly well made. You know, very it's always pretty. Yeah. It's always interesting to look at it.
SPEAKER_00They've gone for very nice practical stuff. There's been a lot of behind the scenes of them like there's a scene where Ryan Gosling is like looking through stuff through infrared, and they've just done this nice, very simple uh uh effect of just like you know, shooting water through glass, yeah, and then you know making it all light, and that looks very pretty, and that's that's filmmaking. It's getting dirty, you know.
SPEAKER_02A good uh just a and it's like I think we're starved for it, which is why people I think are a little bit bigger on it than I am. And that's because it's a fucking well-made blockbuster the way that they used to be made. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I mean, because that's the thing. I feel like you I like I wanna I've got like little like not niggles, but definitely things I'm a bit like, you know, it's a bit it it definitely feels very formulaic, but like my god, we haven't seen it in a hot minute, so you know, good for them. I'm for it, you know. It's probably my least favorite uh Phil Lord Chris Miller sort of vibe, but that's not a bad thing, you know.
SPEAKER_02Do you think this is worse than Lego Movie 2?
SPEAKER_00That's a toughie. They produce they produced that. Let's just unblock it.
SPEAKER_02They wrote it.
SPEAKER_00Oh man, that one that one does no, I won't get into Lego movie two, but stick on Hail Mary.
SPEAKER_02Um the I but I think it's like so the thing that I thought on the second movie, sorry, the second time that I saw it was I was like, wow, it really is um crazy how good it is for a man talking to a puppet for the whole film. It's long as well, isn't it? Two hours twenty. Crazy well paced. It's like two and a half hours. I think it flies by. It does. It is, and it's always funny, it's always good, and then I think it has really good moments of tension as well in the middle. Yeah. Like, I don't know, the when we saw it with that pack crowd, you could drop a pin. Totally. That's it. Like that crowd was fucking in.
SPEAKER_00That gravity spinning scene, that was intense, you know, that was massive. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, so I think people are starved for this. Something that is fun and not like because I think I loved obviously one battle after another, because that was a really well-made blockbuster, and also very intelligent on top of that, very of the time. Yeah, but I think this is like a good old-fashioned one which makes you forget about everything that's like going on.
SPEAKER_00I think that's it. Like, I like my sort of crit not criticism, but just like what was like holding me back from like really loving it, is it sort of being it's never gonna go to that like let's like use the rules of space, you know, or it's like let's never not keep it like quite like lighthearted. Like there's certain scenes where Ryan Gosling really should be panicking a lot more, but it's playing it for comedy, and that's fine. Yeah, because it's it's working comedically, but you are right, like there just isn't this at the moment, so you just like it's filling a void that quite frankly should be filled, you know.
SPEAKER_02And I'm not even sure if anyone's even trying. What do you mean to make other things like this? No, like I feel like that's what also makes it feel fresh, as I'm like, and I feel like it's odd that people aren't trying to make this, yeah. But we what were all of those horrible trailers before this movie? And it was and it's like, am I really gonna go out and watch Masters of the Universe?
SPEAKER_00Masters of the Universe, there was the Supergirl one. Uh, I just recently started watching Superman, and that like that, I think that's a great example of I think a lot of people gave that a lot of praise of just like, look, this looks pretty good for a superhero film, and it I've I've only done watch half of it, and it's fine. But you watch this, you go, This is just leagues. Yeah, it's just so I feel like yeah, and it just shows how much there isn't out there, you know. You're just like, wow, you know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so I don't know. I think it's a great time. I'm yet to hear somebody not like her. It's maybe one of the most likable movies in the world.
SPEAKER_00It's such an easy recommend to just my parents or my like sis, just like go it's like a movie your dad'll just fucking love. 100%, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um I can see it being a real family favorite too.
SPEAKER_00Totally. It's because it's not violent. No, I think I think on reflection of the whole film, I go, okay, actually, there's like I think at every point I'm like, is there gonna be like a tension or a horror? Yeah, I'm like, oh no, it's absolutely fine, you know. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I think as well, I just think it's an interesting way to take it too. Because I think when I read the book, I didn't think, oh, this would be like a good family fair. But I think they definitely saw something in the book that was like, oh no, like a kid could like this. Yeah. And so I think that's an interesting way to take it. So good for them. Let's hope they just get lots of things now. Remember when they almost made the flash as well? God, they've almost made so many things.
SPEAKER_00I I I don't know why I don't know why any producer would be like, you guys are off the project, and they're like, alright, we're gonna go off and just make something just fantastic. And then everyone goes, well, that made money and was critically successful. But shut up. No, you don't get to make the Star Wars. We're gonna make solo with Ron Howard. Carl, what'd you give uh Project Hail Mary? Give Project Hail Mary a crisp four out of five.
SPEAKER_02Both viewings. Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_00Both viewings. I'll have to give it a three and a half out of five.
SPEAKER_02And that's where the cookie crumbles, kids.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's is that our thing? That's our thing. And that's our thing. That's always been our thing. And that's our thing. You know that's always been our thing. That's why I've written in the download. It's always been like that. And that's the way the cookie crumbles crumbles every up every episode.
SPEAKER_00Girl, I also watched Zootopia 2. I downloaded Disney ⁇ and got for the Simpsons. I thought I'll stay for the Taupe 2.
SPEAKER_02Giving a bit of money to the big mouse.
SPEAKER_00Of course. Holla. Holla. He's above us. He's up there. He's in heaven.
SPEAKER_02Waltz looking over us without his head. Going send it up.
SPEAKER_00God, he's like a little, he's like a cockroach that's lost his head. He's just like railing around.
SPEAKER_01He's like, this is a weird afterlife for me. I had a lot of power down there.
SPEAKER_00It's funny, whatever happens to your body. Uh yeah, I guess if that's the logic, does heaven? We won't get into it. Zootopia 2. Wow. I've forgotten about it since watching it. But hey, had a bit of fun while watching it, I think.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think it's fine while watching. It's definitely nowhere near the quality of the first one.
SPEAKER_00Nowhere near, and I think the plot is not as strong as well.
SPEAKER_02I think it takes a while to get going. Did you feel that?
SPEAKER_00Well, it starts with I I'll be honest, I think the biggest issue for me was I think their relationship. I feel like the Disney people were scared off from them being like, well, we should have them in a relationship. But then I think they saw all the gross pawns that have been happening for 10 years. They went, Alright, let's get foot off the pedal. But I st it's weird they're not dating. So they're sort of doing this weird, it's not even like will they, won't they? It's sort of are they partners or are they crime partners? It's very odd. I think it's an annoying uh through line throughout the whole film. Yeah, I think that's my biggest issue with it.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, I thought it was weird too because they they came. What is the time jump they're doing? It's like a month. Wait, no, he's done the entire police course and then they've become partners. I just remember finding that I didn't think where their relationship or friendship was made sense for the history that had uh ensued. Yeah. So was the other was the movie again, it has truly gone through one ear and out the other. Was it about them learning to trust each other? Was that what the what was their arc?
SPEAKER_00I feel like it was more uh believing each other. It was it I felt just a bit wishy-washy. Yeah. It really did feel like we're doing another one. Yeah. I did not enjoy the whole snake uh second island thing. I just didn't feel like I feel like that first one is so like, let's go to this new world. We're gonna really tight, we're gonna throw you like a new little fun concept. I really can't remember a fun concept I learned in this one, even though I feel like that's I feel like we're in that like swampy area for a long time.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I remember liking I remember thinking the back half was stronger than the first half because I just remember it took them ages to get out of Zootopia to go to the new lands. Yeah. And then they also kept on meeting up with characters from the first film, and I was like, stand on your own two feet, be your own adventure. Like, I don't need you to be referencing the other movie. Yeah. Like these characters can come back in your third and fourth film and things like that. But don't chase nostalgia on your sequel. Yeah. Um but yeah, I remember liking the uh I liked Andy Sandberg in it as the villain. Yep. Um, and I thought when the confrontation was happening towards the end, I thought that was quite fun. I thought that was the first time it had sort of hit the seriousness that the first movie had the whole way through. Yeah. And so I was like, oh, I'm glad we haven't lost this. But it was a little bit too little too late. Yeah. Um, and I that's why I also thought we were getting to the end of the second act when that happened. And I was like, oh, and now there'll be uh a third thing.
SPEAKER_00It felt very not formulaic the wrong word, but it just did feel like almost like the just an extra 90 minutes, cause you know, almost to be watched on Disney Plus.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think when it is these long waits between movies, you expect a better quality, in my opinion. And I think this movie's messier than I thought it was gonna be. Um, but I didn't have a bad time when watching it. No, of course not. Um, and I do still really like the characters in the world, so I don't think it's done any damage to the brand, but I thought it it isolated me a little bit more than I would have. I'm not rushing to a third one, you know. No, and that was the shame for me, is I rushed to watch Zootopia 2 because I loved that first one so much. So yeah. I mean, I in terms of is it about generational wealth or was it That's the villain sort of thing? Yeah, I remember thinking that was a good plot for a child. Yeah, like I thought that's an interesting thing to explain to a child, like uh generational erasure as well, like a racing culture was interesting. Um and then that third one's gonna be about birds because there's no birds in Zootopia. What's that about?
SPEAKER_00Whoa, okay. What are they races, but like they're right for it? Like they're kind of like they're like a normal.
SPEAKER_02They're the fire nation. Yeah, whoa. Every third one's got the fire nation now. I mean, that's Avatar. They've done it well, they've done it well.
SPEAKER_00Carl Ward against Zootopia.
SPEAKER_02Uh, I think from I think I gave it a three.
SPEAKER_00I'm also giving it a three.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I think it just gets a passing grave. It is nicely animated, and there's some good jokes. I remember there being some good jokes. Is there a skimble shakes joke?
SPEAKER_00The cat's joke. I can't remember what it was. I remember it hit. It's it's God, you know what? Good for that cat's movie, because I think everyone's been like, is Katz musical insane. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's I think people are like, people are paying attention to cats all of a sudden. And so that that movie's old, like now. That movie's like a 10 like 2019. That's a seven-year-old film.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I guess that's the way the cookie grumbles. That's the way the cookie grumbles. I watched No Other Choice. Oh, yeah? Oh, the Park Park Chamwork.
SPEAKER_00Yes, hells, yeah. Uh, which have you seen many of his films? No.
SPEAKER_01Have you seen Old Boy? Seen any of them?
SPEAKER_00I've been saving them for the I've been saving them for the cinema um uh experience. They're normally around. Yeah, they are, they're usually playing. So I was like, I'll wait to go see like Old Boy in the cinema. I'm not I've not found a good chance to. Uh this one very much enticed me. What I know about it so far is a guy gets uh fired from his job and kind of goes a bit postal. I don't know if postal is the right word, but kind of goes a bit i crazy. That's all I've heard. That's that's the log line I've heard.
SPEAKER_02So it's um the this guy's other movie prior to this one, which was uh Decision to Leave, which I thought was one of his weaker ones. Um and so I thought, have we have has he lost his touch? And he hasn't. Hells yeah. Uh no other choices, absolutely fantastic. The plot is uh basically a man is working in paper. Uh and obviously that is just a an item that is nowhere near as popular as it used to be, and so the pool of who can work in paper is shrinking, and he wants to hold on to his status in society. So when he loses his job and there's not that many other paper jobs happening, and one pops up, he submits for it only to find out there's so many other people that have submitted for it. Yeah, and he works out everybody that's submitted for it and works out where in the pile he reckons his regime lands, and he reckons it's four down. Yeah. So he decides he's gonna kill the top three. Terrific, real fun. Um, yeah, and it is it's way smarter and way more clever and way more dramatic and sad, and an incredible look at why why would you chase status and what matters to you and why should work matter anywhere in your life? And should anyone really care what you do with a nine to five? Is it more so what happens past that time that brings you joy? Great, all of that stuff, and it is just excellent. And on top of that, it's thrilling and it's funny and it's outlandish, uh, and it is a high recommend for me. I'm giving it four and a half stars.
SPEAKER_00Hells yeah, and that's and it remind me, is it the way the cookie crumbles? It is indeed the way the cookie crumbles. Write it down. Cookie crumbles. Yay, nay, yay. Carl, I alluded to it earlier with your suggestion of verse month, but I also did watch Kramer Kramer. Have you seen it?
SPEAKER_02I have seen Kramer versus Kramer.
SPEAKER_00I had not seen it uh uh and I'd heard the marriage story comparisons, and uh my partner and I were like, you know what, Saturday night, let's watch a freaking let's watch a freaking let's see what we could be going through in 20 years. She kept pushing uh a lot of sad Holocaust movies. She was like, should we watch Zone of Interest? I'm like, I gotta tell you, I'm ruining my Saturday. Yeah, I'll I'll stick with Kramer E Kramer. Um, but I we we did watch Kramer vs. Kramer, and for those who don't know the plot, uh Meryl Street walks out on Dustin Hoffman with a child. I couldn't believe it.
SPEAKER_02And he's left being a neighbor to Kramer from Seinfeld. Precisely things get wacky when he clones.
SPEAKER_00The outfits are outrageous, the plot's ridiculous. They get stuck in this goddamn car park for 40 minutes. It's real dope. They just want to get a booking at a restaurant. This fucking soup guy. I won't even I won't even mention it. No, it's so good. We were we started it and it was a bit Dustin Hoffman is this like massive like douche from like 70s art, like uh uh advent and um ad guy, and it was a bit of like a oh, don't say this is like what this is. This is just an outdated film. Oh my goodness, like the heart and soul that he brings to this role for the first half. I'll try not to spoil it, but pretty much just seeing him raise a child, and I think the f the structure of it is almost like this would be a whole film, and then for the film to almost have this last third act, yeah, really good stuff.
SPEAKER_02It's it's truly great. Yeah. Um I have always thought it's probably like an all-timer movie. Yeah, like I think that's like a top 100 film.
SPEAKER_00I couldn't believe how like simple that is. I couldn't believe it made the most money in 1970. Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_01Everybody came out of us like we love that film.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Granted, not that anybody paid that much money to go see Marriage Story, but that was a bit of a phenomenon for a moment. I think so. You know, I think do I think divorce is always sort of skirted around and yet a lot of people go through it. Yeah. So it's always interesting to see it depicted.
SPEAKER_00And I I I mean, maybe this is just my perception of it, but I I can't I don't know of a way it's done poorly. It's always done pretty raw and emotional, and it just seems like a lot of riots are going through it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, more directors and sort of like, is your divorce are you gonna go a Kramer versus Kramer way, or a marriage story away, or a Mrs. Doubt way? And those are the three main things of a divorce. Precisely, precisely.
SPEAKER_00Most lawyers will go, hey, we've got three options. They're all great.
SPEAKER_02One of them involves a montage that can start right now with these two queens over here.
SPEAKER_00Um, but yeah, no, just understood why Dustin Hoffman and Merrill Street. I couldn't believe it's 50 years old, that film. I know. God, I was like, how old are they? They're they're getting up there. Yeah. But just terrific stuff. Everyone's great performance. I don't know if they got nominated for an Oscar. I don't know what the go.
SPEAKER_02It was a big awards. That got best picture, didn't it?
SPEAKER_00I think so. I think so. I think famously won out over like I think it's the famous like five movies, isn't it? Like Yeah, it's got a good, it's a good year. Yeah. Um, but just terrific. Massive recommend. I won't go into the spoilers, but big fan of that. Four and a half out of out of five.
SPEAKER_02I also gave it a four and a half out of five when I saw it, but I'm amped to watch it again. Of course, of course.
SPEAKER_00Is um the I remember the boy being really good in it. Boy's terrific. Boy's really good. Really good performance, and I think you're a bit like at the start again, I was a bit like, ugh, this could be ri this can really go two ways. And I think it being 50 years old is a bit like, oh, like I like if it's just it's a little hang-ups, it's gonna like ruin it, but they just absolutely switch and it just goes terrific. Um, yeah, and there's some really hard moments that the kid has to perform, and I think matches like Dustin Hoffman, which is crazy.
SPEAKER_02I remember it being tough because I watched it with my dad, and my parents have not gone through a divorce touch wood. Uh and I remember as a kid also just being like don't do this to me.
SPEAKER_00That kid's been having a good time and he's axing right now, I'll be a thousand times worse. I'll not put on a performance and I'll cry. I'll and I'll lash out. I'll lash out.
SPEAKER_02And that's the way the cookie crumbles. I ran out of theaters. No, I ran two theaters to watch Wuthering Heights.
SPEAKER_00Oh, you ran out of two seconds.
SPEAKER_02I ran to see it. Okay, gotcha. I watched it four weeks after its initial release. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Packed. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02It it looks very it was still going, you know. Yeah, it was still, there was, it was, it was a bunch of women and me and my partner just having an absolute ball. Hell's yeah. Um, it is, I think, style over substance, personally, but I also think she's made a very uh palatable and entertaining version of Wathering Heights. And I think if you're gonna get high and mighty about that, watch any other version of it. There's that many. It's unfortunate.
SPEAKER_00I mean, here's the thing. I have literally got no soapboxes to hand off. I have not watched the film and have not read the book. So I'm just giving you the opinions of people been screaming at each other. It seems like everyone who loves the book hates this with a passion, and everyone else, like pretty fun and horny. So yeah, who who's to know what good art is, you know?
SPEAKER_02I think I'd be interested to know what some people that don't know what's gonna happen in it uh would have reacted to the marketing of the movie. Because I think they'd probably be expecting a more horny, fun time, and not not a meditation on cruelty.
SPEAKER_00But isn't that horny? Yeah, god, it's horny. Um, yeah. There is Vanel's like, you know what? I know that's uh beers are a bummer, but god damn, I'll make you throb.
SPEAKER_02She gets it. And I mean, uh, I don't think it ended up being true, but people thought she might be doing a remake of cruel intentions. And I was like, that'd be good.
SPEAKER_00Do you know what? And that's that's in the wheelhouse. I saw some people being like, fuck it, let her do like, I don't know, uh Lolisa. Like, oh no, but no, uh, that'd be a perfect one to do that. I know.
SPEAKER_02My biggest fear for her is I do think she was put on this earth to make the great Gatsby. Uh-huh. And because Baz That fucking coward Baz, you know. I think she just won't ever get to do that. And nor do I even know if she wants to make that, but I think her style and then the romance in the center of that would be ripe for one of her movies. Uh, I really wanted to give a shout out to the actress Allison Oliver, who I think steals the entire film. Hells yeah. Uh, she is absolutely fantastic in it, uh, and I hope she has the biggest career. Hells yeah. Uh so good. If you do watch it, you'll know who it is immediately. You'll be like, oh, I'm clocking this woman right now, and her performance is sick. Uh and she gets way more to do than I thought she was going to. Uh so yeah, it sets are gorgeous. It almost feels like a Tim Burton film, I'd say. So I think it's it's definitely not a movie that I think is lazy. Uh, but I I do think because the movie decides to go so outlandish and so big with some of the some of its themes and its depictions, I think it loses the sentimental core that it tries to bring back at the end. So I was not feeling I think the emotions that the movie does want you to feel because it had gone so far off course. But that doesn't mean that I don't think that was enjoyable. I think it was a good time still. There I would like to also give a shout out to the woman in my audience who started howling with tears and hyperventilating over the ending to a point that it had everybody giggling because they were like, Why? How are you disinvested? It was a really special communal moment, and I dare say the reason we go to the movies because when the credits rolled, her friend got up and went, Are you this serious? and whipped out her phone and started recording her and then profusely started apologizing to everybody, being like, I'm sorry, but this is too funny. It's too funny, and just in her face, and I was like, This is this is what this is filmed.
SPEAKER_00This is what the cinema's all about. This is what it's going about. Like sometimes, you know, you can be get some rude people, but sometimes you get some fucking it's great seeing people's through everyone's lenses if she quietly sobbed, fine.
SPEAKER_02It was the house. It was the fact when people like really loud. And everybody was like, are they doing a bit? Are they not well? Like, what is happening? Only to find out it simply was just a young white woman a bit too into wuthering hides.
SPEAKER_00And look, and look, that's the point, you know? That's what Miss Fennell was trying to do. Miss Bronte, is it Miss Bronte? Am I Miss Bron? Yep, that's what that's what Miss Bronte wanted those 200 years ago.
SPEAKER_02When she yeah, when she was putting pen to papes, she was thinking about that woman. Of course. I mean, that's event cinemas and cinema 11 on a Thursday night near a food court. She was thinking about her.
SPEAKER_00I'm talking a closed food court too. It was a weird, eerie vibe, you know. Kyle, what are you giving Wuthering Heights?
SPEAKER_02Giving Wuthering Heights a three out of five. And that is the I'm getting sorry, I'm getting a report.
SPEAKER_00That is the way the cooking works. Okay, okay. We'll have to we'll have more. We'll have to weigh in on that. We'll have more for that sort of thing.
SPEAKER_02We'll get out from getting a thumbs up from the producer. They've also heard that too. So that's a full confirmation.
SPEAKER_00Well, that's two people, so that must be that's that's a source. And our we have five producers. God, they're well paid.
SPEAKER_02I've got a thumbs up, down, up, down. Okay, alright. That's an interesting report.
SPEAKER_00Carl, it's the religious uh holiday, so you know what that means. Well, it was. It was. Well, it always is, you know, you know, big man up there, or we're down there, we know. I don't know how you're to let people know what holiday we're doing. It was Easter. It was Easter. It was the it was the it was the it was the the death of Christ, then he was back in a big way. And then some eggs got thrown in there as well. So we decided to go down the c uh dirty ground and just have a little holiday home.
SPEAKER_02We took a big, big holiday, yeah, you know, there's about ten of us. We had a a lovely time down the south coast of Australia. And when we're down, we do we like to go down once a year. When we went down, we would we end up maybe a little bit hungover, and we always like to chuck something on, usually a new release on a streaming service. Uh some other years have included the Kevin Hart classic Lift.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_02Uh I can only remember Lift right now.
SPEAKER_00I believe you put on the Danish girl.
SPEAKER_02Yes, we did watch the, and that was not a new release, but an old classic. An old classic of 2016.
SPEAKER_00I would say this is the vibe of someone's clicked it. It's it's the bit is wouldn't it be funny if we watched this? Yes. But it would be like, wouldn't that be hilarious? But then don't do it, and then we're doing that for the entire field of Netflix and Stan until finally someone goes with a bold click and we commit. And what do we commit to this too?
SPEAKER_02We committed to the Stan original, the new Australian film Whale Shark Jack. Wow. Now, I don't know what you're thinking. Oh, I've seen that poster. It's already dropped to number five on Stan's most watched films. Precisely, precisely. You are correct. Nobody's watching it. Uh, which is why we're here to drum up a little bit of excitement.
SPEAKER_00Hey guys, you know, here's the thing a lot of people might be throwing these big pop culture moments at you, making$700 million. I'm talking to telling right now, Waleshot Jack ain't making that, and guess what? We've got to be pushing this. This is an Australian film from our hearts. Let's freaking give it something.
SPEAKER_02What's wrong with a movie wanting to be watched in the afternoon and maybe not finished? Huh? What's wrong with wanting to make a film like that?
SPEAKER_00A lot of people set out to make, you know, art that's watched for the whole way through. And like I tell you, sometimes it doesn't have to be. Sometimes it can be just sort of wash over you. Maybe you pause, maybe you never return to it, but at least you gave it a good go.
SPEAKER_02What if somebody said, We're doing a story about a kid that is in no way relatable to anybody ever?
SPEAKER_00Alright. Yeah. Sign me up. Now, Carl, how would I be funding this film? Would it be through the New South Wales uh sort of government scheme?
SPEAKER_02Surely what we'll do is we'll definitely essentially make it a tourist video.
SPEAKER_00And there's nothing wrong with that. And there's nothing wrong with that. When you walk into Rip Curl and see them on the screen, them watching surfing videos, maybe this film will be in the background. And it will just blend in seamlessly.
SPEAKER_02Whale Shark Jack is the incredible, uh, not true story of a young girl whose dad dies at sea. But I think before that has befriended a whale shark named Jack.
SPEAKER_00Precisely.
SPEAKER_02Now this girl's like, uh, I haven't seen Whale Shark Jack in a while, and dad's dead. I'm putting a lot of my stock into the sea creature and trying to see them again. Uh, and she reckons maybe she can find him. Uh, and if you reckon, hey, that probably can't sustain 90 minutes. Oh, it can't.
SPEAKER_00There's a lot of bullying at school. I gotta tell you, and we loved the bully. The bully was really working.
SPEAKER_02The bully was easily my favorite character.
SPEAKER_00Bully was really working. It's really upsetting that the film goes, let's redeem redeem this. I'm like, no, I think this bully. Sometimes, you know, you gotta bully the marine biologist because then they become a doctor. A real job. That's right, I'll say it. If you're looking after turtles, don't bother. Put some straws up the nose and say, fuck it. I it's look, we're being cruel, but it's just a nice, chill Australian film. Yeah, it's not striving for a lot. It's a la Nim's Island. I feel like this is the plot of Nim's Island. Sure. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, so this child's like, I want to save the shark. I need to get a ragtag, bunch of group. I got the I got the shit.
SPEAKER_02She befriends the local IT boy from school. Yep. Um, who I don't think is any help, if I'm being honest. And frankly, she almost gets them killed. Yeah. Uh so yeah, there's that.
SPEAKER_00I and she has a kooky aunt, and uh, I'll be honest, a mum just really trying to do a lot, and quite frankly, her daughter's.
SPEAKER_02A mum just trying to get through it. Her husband's dead, and she's stuck with this horrid child. Horrid child goes on. Making me imagine making your husband's death all about this girl, because she's like, but that was my dad, and it's like she knew him longer than you knew him. Give the mum a break.
SPEAKER_00I'm glad you bring this up.
SPEAKER_02Constantly orphans brought you never done lines with your dad, little girl. Abby Cornish has.
SPEAKER_00That's the bonding moment you had. We did hard drugs in our youth, and that bonded us. What are you? Just out of my womb? Get out of here. You're half hidden.
SPEAKER_02What have you got to give me when my husband gave me the world? Because you're just being a depressed little girl right now. And it's like, look, I and here's the thing: I loved him more than you. And I when she says that, I went, good for her. Good for her. Good for her. That's feminism. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, we should be more positive because everyone's given ego. Because I'm scared I'm gonna run into them because quite frankly, it looks like it's filmed just at the beach.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, look, it's unfortunately not very good. But and but in terms of look, if you're one of those people that says there's not a lot of colour in movie anymore, there's a colourful looking movie, but it is a tourism commercial. Turn up the CPS.
SPEAKER_00They've gone, you guys like Queensland or the vibe of Queensland? Yeah, it's down here. Yeah. Whale shark jack. Whale shark jack. Check it out.
SPEAKER_02I just think it's tough because I don't relate to a whale shark jack, but I do relate to a kangaroo jack. And that's the problem. And that's our first versus.
SPEAKER_00Of course. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02Could you imagine? Fuck. Get the producers on the phone.
SPEAKER_00Now you say land, sea, or air. Where are these two fighting?
SPEAKER_02Oh, you've got to make it even for the two, so it'd have to be air.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. It's and that's a question.
SPEAKER_02In terms of a three-act structure, first fights in the sea, second fights on the land. Boom. Tiebreaker, we take it to the air. Powerful. And that's where we turn out. There's Galah Jack. And that's the real villain.
SPEAKER_00Carl, you're you're you're printing money. You're printing money. I know. Why do you get whale shark jack?
SPEAKER_02Oh, I gave it a one and a half.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'd give it like a. I think I gave it a two. I'm actually gonna check. I gave it a two. I gave it a two. Check it out if you have Stan.
SPEAKER_02I think if you have a child, they probably won't love it either.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And that's the way the cookie crumbles crumbles. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. What a bummer. I feel like if you're on Letterboxd, you can see you can see whether whether the people that worked on the movie would have given it a five. There's only ten fives.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and then there's all of us. Us.
SPEAKER_02Oh, there's only 73 reviews?
SPEAKER_00We're a third of those.
SPEAKER_02That's a shame. Guys, support Whale Shark Jack. Guys, go out.
SPEAKER_00Just so people know. Guys, can I say as well? Sorry, if you're on stand watching Whale Shark Jack, you go have letterbox. I think that I think there are the Venn diagram people that watching this film and had letterbox, it ain't it.
SPEAKER_02Can I also say as well, because this movie was viewed over three days, we watched about 25 minutes a morning, and it's really only a 75-minute film. Uh in our third allotment of the 25 minutes that we watched, I thought Oscar's partner had put on this film because this was an important film to her youth. And she had seen it before, and she had not because it had turned out it had come out the day we started watching. It was an Easter release. Yeah. So we I I didn't realize we were watching a brand new film because it felt so from made so long ago.
SPEAKER_00It had the vibe of a mortified episode.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00Not a bad thing, but it is a mortified episode.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. And if you are watching a mortified episode, you are waiting to be mortified. So you're getting blues blue balls all film. You're getting well charge, you're going, surely the shark, surely he's gonna turn around and eat that girl.
SPEAKER_00Surely a Moby Dick situation. Come on, give me something, give me something. Carl, I'm half watching Superman. That's right, I'm an hour in. Okay. Here's my first impressions. Yeah. I like my biggest issue with Superman is they go, he is a weird superhero to bring nowadays, because I think we're we're done. It's like bringing, like, I don't know, like, hey, here's a guy. It's a simple superhero. He's odd. So I like at the moment that they brought him in, and his main motivation is the fact that he does not fit in in this modern world. Loving that. Yeah. I am loving the artistic choice of it being a bit more colourful. I think it's been very grim the last uh ten years. I do like um not who's the uh owner of DC now? James Gunn. James Gunn. I'm liking his sort of suicide. Is this in the same universe as Suicide Squad?
SPEAKER_02Dude, I can tell you what's happening with these movies.
SPEAKER_00Because John Cena's in it for a hot second, as um Yeah, so I guess it's a part of the Peacemaker.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And they've got Supergirl. But obviously, Warner Bros. has just sold, so who even knows what's gonna happen to James Gunn. Yeah, gotcha. Could you imagine if they start again after this? Why not? I'm not gonna check in. Oh well. I will. This will be the one for you. Yeah, there's bye-bye.
SPEAKER_00Finally, they're back on track. Uh yeah, so I've watched now. You seen Superman?
SPEAKER_02Me? Yeah. Yeah, I have.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I didn't mind it when I watched it. It hasn't exactly stayed with me. Yeah. I think the best thing about it is the I really enjoyed the beginning of the movie. Which is it's just the opener, which is like explains that it's like this is the first time he's ever lost a fight, and he just sort of like falls into frame. And I was like, wow, this is a good grabber in terms of I thought that was a good way to start running and being like, he's you know the beats. We know all the beats, yeah. And I like the idea of being like, This is a this is an important part of Superman's story as an origin because this is the first time he's lost, and what does that mean? And how is he fitting into this world where doing the right thing can also be showing support for the wrong thing and all of the difficulty that comes with the internet in terms of that as well? That's a really interesting way to take it, and there is a scene when Lois and Superman have a long chat, yeah, which I think is the best scene of the film, yeah. Damn. And unfortunately, I think that there is never a moment of drama or interest or realism as much as that scene, and it gets so goofy and cartoon.
SPEAKER_00I was gonna say, because I I was like my sort of reservation of like I was like, should I finish this? I was just cleaning, it was very it's how we should watch all movies. Um remember that's I kept saying that for who would watch this for like 40 films. I was like, it's either a babysitter or a cleaning film. But it is, but I was like a bit frustrated of almost the goofiness of certain bits, like the sort of Lex Luther's like big selfie girlfriend. It just feels very like I don't know, like was that tested? It just feels a bit janky, you know. So I'm glad it I was right, you know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think it's uh the I could see uh I really like the actor they've got as well, and I think James Gunn has an interesting concept for Superman. I don't think he's realized it to the point that I'm in love with this, but I've also never really been a Superman fan.
SPEAKER_00I can't imagine many people are like it's an odd one to get behind, you know. I think that's the most interesting thing they've done is that he is almost as like a two standard of a superhero that and you put him in the modern world, and he's sort of just doing like it's janky, you know. That's interesting.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and I think James Gunn's made an an imp an interesting choice, which is to say, after having gone through watching these pseudo grim adult Superman versions, what if I made a family-friendly one? Yeah, and I think he's succeeded in doing that, and so good for him on I think setting out to do what he felt like doing. Yeah, but I think in retrospect it probably wasn't for me. And that's where I land. But it's fine. I think the movie's fine.
SPEAKER_00That feels the the it couldn't be more that consensus. Like I that's all I've heard is just Yeah, and that's why I put it on for a clean. So what'd you give it, Carl? Uh, I think I give it a three out of five. Wow, attentively, a three. We'd love to finish it.
SPEAKER_02I feel like I'm giving a lot of threes at the moment.
SPEAKER_00And it's just if it's like three is just it's just a cut above. I'm trying to think where my bar is, you know, where my bar for what like uh because honestly, a two and a half I do see as like a worse review. Yeah. But like I'm like, oh, I semi-liked it. I liked bits of it, you know. It's hard to dip into the bad territory.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I yeah, and that's the thing is James Gunn is behind it, and so it is like well, like it's it's well made enough, yeah, and it's well written enough. Like it is not when you compare it to like there's a consistency, yeah, it's a bit uh stock standard. I remember at the time as well, I'd just come out of I think it was in amongst that sort of time where um uh that new Captain America had come out, and I think that that I feel like that it really got swept in.
SPEAKER_00I think it was like a consistent movie. Everyone This is great. I think it had just been in shit territory for a hot minute, you know.
SPEAKER_02And I think as well after Superman Oh, also during that time as well, Jurassic World Rebirth came out, which was fine, but also kind of a mess. And so this was suddenly this blockbuster at the time that was just consistent and had a vision, and like no matter what, that movie has a personality and it's James Gunn's personality, and that's better than it having nothing. Yes, and at the time, a fair few of the blockbusters had nothing going for it, so I think it really was able to stand out there. So I I don't think it's done a good enough job on me getting getting me out to watch Supergirl, Supergirl, and I find it weird to say we're building a new universe, and your first two movies are people with the exact same power set. Because I don't think Superman has an interesting power set.
SPEAKER_00No, that's that's a famous one, like it's it's not a good one.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's it's got kind of everything, yeah. Especially when you're sort of like the boys is on and you're watching like an evil Superman just kill a bunch of people, yeah. Like I feel like it's like you're like, I've seen this a lot now. Invincible as well is on, yes, and so I'm now seeing in a more interesting way and a more adult way that's what I think that was the only interesting thing of the whole film, was just them like, hey, this is a bland power.
SPEAKER_00His only thing is is morally, he's too one-dimensional. Yeah, how interesting, you know. Uh, but yeah, I believe there is a saying we say, but again, I wouldn't be able to tell you.
SPEAKER_02I'm getting five thumbs up, which means we are able to reveal to the audience this is the way the cookie crumbles.
SPEAKER_00That's all Roger Ebert. We actually brought him back from the dead and cloned him five times.
SPEAKER_02Can you believe it? Siskel and Ebert always went by whether it crumbled or not. Uh-huh. It usually crumbles. It usually crumbles. Because that's the way the cookie crumbles.
SPEAKER_00Gyal, I mean, we're I mean, we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're that's all folks. We're under the clock. So should we do we have time to talk about dare I say the film of the year?
SPEAKER_02Sorry, that also just really tickled me just for anybody to know that there's absolutely no time constraint other than we get to go home.
SPEAKER_00Carl, no, no, no. We're renting a studio by the minutes, and you know I filled the meeter with quarters, and we're running out of time.
SPEAKER_02We're racing to get back to our cars before the meter runs out. What nonsense.
SPEAKER_00Carl, we both watched the drama. It's the new film we're from Zendaya and Robert Patterson. Not from them, they're just in it. Yeah. It's from that guy that made Dream Scenario. And the one with the woman with bandages around her face and the sunglasses. I come over. Wanna watch it. Carl, should we do a spoiler free one and then go into a spoiler chat about this film? I think we can get around not spoiling it. Okay. Do you reckon? I th I think so. Let's give it a go. Let's give it a go, you know? You know, I want this to be a podcast where you don't ever have to pause it. You know, you're never coming back, you know.
SPEAKER_02I don't think we've spoiled anything so far, which is why I feel like I don't have a reservation of We're pros.
SPEAKER_00We're good.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Did we spoil anything?
SPEAKER_00I guess Zootopia. Andy Sandberg's the villain of Zootopia 2. Since we'll have to spoil the drama then. Carl, I I yeah, let's just let's dance around it. I think the marketing of this is Sendera and Robert Patterson are gonna get married, and something is said to the effect that then it sends them on a bit of a spiral.
SPEAKER_02Yes, absolutely. Yeah. Um I didn't know what was gonna be said. I don't I think you were spoiler-free as well. Um a fun thing to gauge is we we went to a cinema and uh we went with a bunch of people, and so we all uh essentially tried to book out a full row. Uh and I didn't want to spend any money, and so I had like a weird ticket thing that I could redeem, but I mean I didn't get to pick where I sat, and so I meant I was separated from the crowd. Uh so and another friend sat with me, but I could just hear Oscar's laughter off on the back of the cinema as well. And I'm sure you heard how tickled I was with a DJ at one stage when I absolutely cackled.
SPEAKER_00I can't stress to you guys, go out and watch this with a crowd. It was really good with a crowd. It was so good with a crowd, and I in the sense of that some people were not on the code.
SPEAKER_02Definitely not happy with it, and I understand why. I think it could be a little bit too heavy for someone. I am the same. So I get that, and I think it's I think the the reason I really very much liked it is it felt feels like a really of the time movie, feels really current, feels really interesting to unpack right now. Totally.
SPEAKER_00I I've never seen a movie want to discuss this. Really fun, unique characters. I I think without spoiling it, them getting some of the biggest A-listers at the moment, almost to trick you into watching this film is terrific. I felt every single time it revealed another element of it. I was just bigger smile on my face that they were going down this dark stuff.
SPEAKER_02And I thought it was a nuanced conversation about it as well. I didn't think it was making fun of anything, I didn't think it was turning what it wanted to talk about into a gag. No. Even though it was a comedy, which I think is a risky move that pays off. And I really commend it.
SPEAKER_00I don't think it's diving into the topic that I don't think that's its purpose, but I think just playing out to see what this sort of looks like and this dilemma. Yeah. I don't think it's saying anything massive or anything like that. But I I am very much enjoying the what if.
SPEAKER_02Well, I thought it discussed it more than I thought it was going to. When the reveal happens, there is a some really good comedy after that. And I assumed the reveal was to set up the comedic situations, but it does spend a proper portion of its runtime delving into why Zendaya did the thing that she was feeling like doing. And I wasn't expecting them to do that.
SPEAKER_00Well, my favorite thing was I feel like they didn't uh go down the stereotypical explanation, they actually double down almost the dark humor of just sort of she did it for I think some interesting reasons and then got out of it for even more interesting reasons. Um really kiddie though to me. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02In a sense where I'm like, I can see why this would happen to a kid.
SPEAKER_00Totally. I felt like it wasn't uh a like a script going, that was too much. Let's yeah. It's like, no, we're actually gonna snowball into this of just like this is probably what happened. Uh again, like like mouth over my like gasping at some of these lines, some of the things that happened.
SPEAKER_02I will because one of the best jump scares I've had in a while. Yeah. Leapt out of my scene.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like a twisted horror, like similar to the produced by Arias. Yeah, when I saw that, because I feel like the conversation's been a bit like you gotta go see the drama, something big, bad happens. I was a bit like, I don't know, sometimes you can be a bit swept up in this. I think when his name popped up as a producer, I went, oh fuck. I just watched Eddington and like, man, that's like the best film of the last year. And it's fucking vile. I don't want to watch it ever again. God, it's good. And that being the sort of tone, I'm like, woofed. Yeah, I can't wait to watch Dream Scenario and I can't wait to watch the bandage one. But no, I think Robert Patterson, fuck, playing a weak little man. Like again, where's Timmy's of this? You know, he's gonna play a little freak. I think all our leading men have the ability to be kind of just shell of men. I just think, and I good for him, he did it. And Zendaya's towing the line of charismatic and god, we we discussed it after, like at length, but just her like pretty privilege is the one wrong thing, but just toes a line of just like go, huh, okay, there we go.
SPEAKER_02There you go. Yeah, I think we discussed that if the leads weren't attractive, would the movie feel different? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But I but I love that, I feel like it's very purposeful. I love sort of chatting about each character's motivation and sort of why they've overreacted or reacted to a certain thing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and I think that's the other thing too, is I think they're really interesting characters. Like I think the the the little things that happen over the lying and the spats and and little things that are happening make those characters way more three-dimensional than I also thought they were gonna be. Yes. Uh, which I think also lends itself to the movie. Yeah. Like, I think once I was halfway through, I went, Oh, I do understand why big A listers have attached themselves to this movie. Because I think it's while it's a little bit of a good marketing gimmick, I think they've gone, this is actually quite an interesting character to play. Yeah. Uh especially when I think uh who is the Robert Patterson. Especially because I think Robert Patterson's doing this like Hugh Grant-esque performance in the movie, which once you sort of understand what the movie's about, kind of doesn't suit us. And because he's doing that, it's like makes it so funny.
SPEAKER_00It's Hugh Grant having the worst day of his fucking life.
SPEAKER_02Like it's like he's it's like Hugh Grant's accidentally found himself in a much more serious movie than he's meant to be in, and he's like, Oh no, but how do I get out of it? Like, and that's what's really clever.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Robert Patterson, just like him weasling out of these situations, really good. No backbone, but like really good. You get what? Like he's he's been fine for that for his whole life, and then this has come up, and then yeah, Zendaya gives these little sparks to go, oh yeah, you yeah, that makes sense for you to do that. So whoofed. Uh, it's really funny. On like I think in a cinema that experience, that's like the love for it, you know. That's what I'm going for. On reflection, I I'm fine with the ending tying it all together. I think I you need that just like as a tick. Um, but yeah, I feel like the the experience I had was the most fun I've had in a cinema for a very long time.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I agree. I thought it was an incredible cinema going experience, and I will say, unfortunately, for this director, when I have watched his movies, they don't really have endings. And it was sort of an issue with Dream Scenario is that movie just sort of fades, and you're like, okay, I feel like something could have happened there. This one has a bit more of a neater moment to end.
SPEAKER_00This isn't like a tight little, like, hey, let's leave the cinema, let's give you the I think the movie goes, you decide.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, this is what the characters did, but now you can just decide, make up your own mind as to what you really would have done.
SPEAKER_00Totally. I think that's not it's not a bad thing, that ending. I think just with this whole state, I'm quite happy for it to almost just let's just smack it back together, you know. I don't mind that. Yeah. Um, but yeah, really fun. Yeah. What do you give it, Carl? Uh I gave it a four out of five. I was giving it a four and a half out of five.
SPEAKER_02Wow, and that's the way.
SPEAKER_00I don't know what you're fucking talking about. Can you please stop with this whole this is how the thing fucking crumbles. Or the cookie. It's how the cookie cookie crumbles. That's it. No, it's it's quite a good lie. It's quite a good lie.
SPEAKER_02And it's coined by us, TM'd by someone else. Timmuz.
SPEAKER_00Timuzz. I believe Oreo got the uh got the rights. Probably. Mr. Oreo. Or they're twist dunk something. Lick. Lick, dunk, twist. It's one of those words in that.
SPEAKER_02I love the idea of dunking, then twisting.
SPEAKER_00I want a soggy cookie. What a mess. I want a soggy cookie and then twisting it.
SPEAKER_02I wish their campaign was to lick, dunk, twist. What a mess.
SPEAKER_00Brackets, and that's the way the cookie rumbles. And that's the way the cookie rumbles.
SPEAKER_02And then down on the corner, Oreo.
SPEAKER_00Thanks for listening.
SPEAKER_01Thank you.